Piracy question

[Rhialto]

It has been awhile since I got into the details of piracy. Could someone verify for me that what counts in piracy is the total raider FS present and not the maximum raider FS on a single fleet? For instance, will a raider with 3 fleets of 1 BS will pirate an enemy fleet of 1 BS (of FS=5) on an undefended world?

[Logical Player]

It is the total Raider FS (combined) against the total neutral and ennemy fleets at the world.
The answer to the example is yes.

LP

[warhammer4]

Logical player can you expand on that?

You say it is Total vs Total.

What happens in this example:

Raider arrives at world with 3 fleets, 10 BS per fleet.

Total FS 30.

Enemy arrives at world with 13 fleets, four BS on 6 of them and only a single BS on the other 7.

Total FS 31.

No fleets captured? Not even the singles?

Do ally fleets count? Two allies show up with combined 31 vs a single radier with 30 FS? Does he capture both their fleets because they are counted against his individually or does the ally status allow combination against this?

Or is ally status even required? You said neutral or enemy fleets, does a neutral and enemy fleet both count against the raiders 3:1 ratio or do they each counter it individually?

Thanks for any info!

[Alamir-ai-khan]

3 fleets with 10 BS each is 150 FS for the raider, the other 31 BS sum up to 155 FS ... so there will be not even the glimpse of a chance to capture.

The math behind raider piracy is quite easy: if the total of a raiders FS on a system is three times or more the FS of all other, non-allied starlords present, he will pirate those fleets.

When doing the calculation, it is only the raider FS that is taking into consideration, as allies present in the system (e.g. traders) can not participate in the act of piracy. On the side of the "victims", the idea is that you cannot overwhelm the fleets of the other starlords if you don't have that 3 to 1 superiority in force, even if those other starlords might be enemies of each other and therefor would not assist each other. However, there are just those two sides: the raiders fleets and all non-allied fleets and non-allied. The latter one are seen as a single unit, so you cannot pirate the 1 BS fleets in your example as they are part of the armada and protected by it.

Hope that did not add to your confusion ... it really is quite simple if you give it a thought or two!

>> ALAMIR <<

[warhammer4]

Wow! I can't believe how atrocious my math was on that post! I knew I was tired and dysfunctional when I wrote it, but wow that was really bad!

Anyways you got the concept of the question I was asking and answered it.

Thanks!

[Rhialto]

I thought that non-allied fleets do not support each other in the piracy calculation. So a pirate with 3 BS arrives at an undefended world with 3 fleets of three different non-allied starlords, each with one BS. I think that the pirate captures them all.

[Baul Sachs]

The last post confuses the issue.. after LP explained so well.

warhammer4's post makes more sense when you consider he meant FS instead of BS in his example.

[Logical Player]

Originally posted by Baul Sachs
The last post confuses the issue.. after LP explained so well.

warhammer4's post makes more sense when you consider he meant FS instead of BS in his example.

thanks!
Don't worry, the "last" post is wrong. It's Raider's Total vs others Total (excepting Raider's allies). In "last" post's case, the Raider doesn't capture anything because the Total against him is not below or equal to 1/3 of his FS.

LP